Another Lloyd thread on Reddit.
https://reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/s/JvZf4XdSgD
A Thai woman has some interesting things to say about sex tourism to her country.
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It was always just pantomime - bread and circuses to fool his followers.
He went even beyond that. It’s one thing to open the case, announce it to the community and promise to report back when there were results. But he went further. He’s slandered innocent people (the court even said they weren’t liable under the criminal code he cited) and kept at it for months - “criminal defendants” and “criminally suing”. This wasn’t like a one time thing. He did this on multiple occasions and as recently as last month.
To put it in playground terms, he’s the bully who keeps telling other kids to meet them after school for a fight and never shows. Then he shows up to school the next day bragging about how he beat them down and will do so again after school. And then not showing for that.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
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What’s amazing about this is about who DIDN’T file anything. He knew Kim gave a Croatian lawyer power of attorney a few weeks back, has known about the docs being released for a week, and has done NOTHING. No motion for the court to consider evidence about to be filed, essentially nothing that would give the court pause before wrapping this case up.
It’s like he’s given up on this case completely, even though he’s still going on about criminal defendants.
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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool - November 2023
by DerekMoors inlet's get the fun started and put in our votes for how far down the pumpkin patch lord of the fries will fall in november.. for those keeping score, last month he started at 457 patrons, did some begging and managed to bump those numbers up to 478, but as of this writing he's down to 439.. so, how well do you think the grift will continue this month?
let us know where you think he'll be on november 2. lucky number 420?
will he drop back down below 400?
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Things are still in flux. He’s currently at 437, only +2 from his low and -2 from earlier yesterday. The lack of content, lesser frequency and the resulting damage has yet to be fully realised. I am withholding my prediction until later.
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Here’s the English version. This one is different. Says: “Letter” as opposed to Official Note. Dated from Tuesday the 3rd.
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This got me curious, what was his occupation when he lived in the UK, when he was a JW ?
In his book he relates that his art school degree was a general one and he failed to find a job in any related field. He worked a series of dead end office jobs obtained through a temp company. His ex-brother-in-law ran a landscaping business and Lloyd is listed on those incorporation papers, so he was involved to some extent in that.
On his long deleted translation site, he claimed he was uniquely qualified for legal translation because he worked as a filing clerk in a UK law office.
Might also be why he thinks he knows the law better than anyone.
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This is why the only thing that needs to be done is to keep pointing out the things he said he did.
It is clear that he miscalculated at first. By the time he figured it out, it was too late. He attempted to normalise what he had done by fully embracing his history with sex workers. He even had something of a grin when describing how long it went back in time as if he were proud of it. The nonchalant way he informed Kim as if she had already known was a clear example of this.
Knowing Lloyd, he had probably planned this huge video when he returned, going into how sex work is normal, should be legal, and how any exJWs who opposed this, esp in Thailand, were puritanical prudes, racists and still had a great deal of residual JW thinking.
But the reaction he was getting made such a video impossible to make without alienating more of his supporters.
His livestream and the FB statement he put out days later were the closest things to the truth and because of that, ultimately did him the most damage. In the livestream he had confirmed he had seen SWs every 2-3 months for 3-4 years. In the FB statement he confirmed that he met SWs (plural) in Thailand as well.
The reality is he doesn't see anything wrong with either of those facts. He hasn't apologised because he isn't sorry. He'd do it again, albeit under a huge cloak of secrecy this time round.
He had found out the hard way that he had revealed too much and people weren't OK with this as he thought they could be manipulated into thinking. He's backed away from both statements and has never repeated them since early Feb 2022. . In March 2022 he began his deflection campaign and on the Gold interview started his "I dated a sex worker" narrative. This has mostly held until just last month when he added an adjective "briefly" to "dating". This was done on purpose and meant to further minimise what he had done.
Since he's still saying he has dated a sex worker in Thailand, I'd like to submit my drawing to the class.
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More videos like this, please.
“I’ve only sought sex outside my marriage, not relationships”
”I briefly dated a sex worker in Thailand”
”The defamation campaign has failed!”
”The defamation campaign is continuing and I need to keep paying my legal team to prosecute these criminals. Also I need to scale down operations because the defamation campaign has damaged my business. Good job exJWs!”
And boom goes the dynamite - he has essentially abandoned his lawsuit, brazenly lying about continuity of it.
Lloyd loves his Christoper Hitchens quotes, so here’s one from Alexander Solzhenitsyn:
“We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying.”
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Just screams to me someone who plays the depressed game without ever living it.
Regardless of whether he ever came close to suicide and you make a compelling argument that it was more of an act, we’ll hear his account of it in the Second Edition of TRA which will be
on a free PDFavailable for order on Amazon.I can probably write it for him.
“Javi could not be convinced despite the ample evidence that he was being influenced by the Silvio hate mob. The call ended with a definitive statement: If I would not resign from TTATT, they would cease production altogether. My capitulation was complete, which brought back vivid memories of both my judicial committees. I buried my head in a pillow and wept bitterly thinking of all the work I had put into this project only see it go to waste. Without my leadership I could not see this project ever coming to fruition. Lives would never be saved and it was all due to the defamation campaign that Javi was now complicit in.
Defeated, I reached for the unopened bottle of Johnny Walker Blue. The Valium on the nightstand also beckoned. My resolve to commit this final act of surrender will chase the pain away. Taking a swig straight out of the bottle I solemnly reached for the pills. This shouldn’t take long. I reached for the picture of my girls to bid farewell. Next to their picture was the smirking photo of Stephen Lett I kept on my desk in the bunker. This image niggled inside the back of my head for a spell.
I could not let them win.
Not the Silvio mob, nor the Governing Body. I must be strong and fight on another day. My children needed me. I had over 700 loyal patrons who refused to believe the lies. Reaching for Karlo Novosel’s card, I made the call to his voicemail.
“Prosecute these criminals to the fullest extent of the law. I’m in this for the long haul”.
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What was revealed about the lawsuit is also highly damaging to him, though.
Normally so, but these Cedarites and Lloyd-adjacent people who love his videos are conditioned to believe there are a lot of fake stories about him planted. The comments on the M&K video showed a lot of that with several questioning what evidence was just placed in front of them. For some of these people, you need the dismissal for them to believe and they will get it. And there are some who would continue to pledge if Jabba the Hutt filmed himself devouring the burger joints of Zagreb.
I believe these two things happened:
- Lloyd posts these “I am under attack!” videos which solidifies support and in this case resulted in a minor bump.
- Many people saw a sinking ship with Tibor leaving, Lloyd obviously unstable and thus quit patronage.
The people leaving outnumbered the people joining. As a result, the -24 he suffered in the last two weeks of September was mitigated somewhat by people joining. But not enough to reverse the trend. The video did him more damage than good.
As for the court news and the future of the LE channel, the reality of what is about to happen has yet to sink in. Two half assed videos a week is going to reduce traffic there and contribute to the continued loss of support.
It’s a little bit too soon to fully gauge what just happened and the correlation with his financial support.